Subject: Pressure cap fitting
From: paul
Date: 2/20/2015, 1:55 AM
To: AAA-rotaryengine



Paul:

I have purchased the RX8 water pump block from Jeff D. (pic attached) but cannot find the exact radiator cap bung (o-ring sealed) that will fit it.

Do you know exact supplier or part #?

Thanks and regards,


cozyflyr


I can't find it either. I looked recently. Apparently the company went out of biz.

Did you check speedwaymotors.com <http://speedwaymotors.com> ?


They have a small weld on that my ace tig welder could weld but there would be a charge.

They have a bolt on that might fit if turned down.


If you find a larger one I will turn it down on my lathe no charge.


Randy, we need to redesign this part.

Paul Lamar

Question The photo here with this pump is specially made for improving cooling efficiency? If so who is making it? I'm Interested.

For the cap bung, it might be a metric one, that maybe the reason you don't find it. If you can give to me some measurements, then, I can look for it as in Europe metric is common....

Pascal

I believe the pressure caps are standardized through out the world.

I think Randy in Colorado will be making those in the future. It is an adapter to the RX8 water pump that is designed to clear the p-port slide throttle. Here are some more pictures and 3D's. The radiator works best on the cool side of the engine so this gets the coolant going in the right direction. The muffler shown in these 3D's is obsolete as we have come up with a much better solution.

Here is Neal Ungars experience with the install.

Quote.


To those as stupid as myself,
I have the renesis motor with Jeff
Doddridge’s  water block to replace the original  manifold.  It fitted beautifully but once I filled the coolant I noticed a slight leak at the bottom.
Cursing myself
for having not fitted it properly I removed it (along with the slide throttle and pipes, an hours work) to find what seemed not enough clearance between the block and a washer.  I cleaned everything up, filed more clearance between the block and the surrounds, refitted the water manifold, and no leak, Eureka!!  A few days later I noticed a slight water leak down the front of the motor, and next day the same water leak at the bottom of the manifold once again. This was with no pressure in the system at all, so it could not go “as is”. Once again I removed everything and again could not see anything wrong, clearances were not the problem.  I now suspected the welds on the manifold block.  Much filing and probing with a needle revealed no possible hole in the weld.Then it finally dawned, I am totally stupid!!

   When I had put the manifold on both times, I had been very economical with the gasket putty so as to not have too much squeezed out into the water channels.
Therefore I simply applied the gasket goo to the surrounds of the manifold holes.
Lovely job I did too.  What I forgot however was that Jeff Has put 2 internal mounting bolts to hold the manifold onto the engine block, again nicely done.  In my effort to minimise the gasket goo, I omitted to surround both bolt holes with gasket maker.  That allowed the coolant to seep down the bolt holes and out. It was impossible to pick up the source of the leak being so slow.Well I fixed it!
There is probably so much RTV on the join now that I have probably blocked both manifold holes!  Actually all I did was to put a smear around the head of both internal cap screws so that the coolant is prevented from passing the head of the screw.  Why did I not pick that in the first place??  Hopefully it will prevent someone else from getting into a temper.

Neil. Unger

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Paul Lamar


I had a similar experience.  It was finally fixed when I decided to go with a factory metal thermostat housing gasket... problem solved.  My recommendation to all who use this adapter block is to also use a new factory gasket.

It will save you much aggravation.

Mark S.

This one fit mine:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261598244821?item=261598244821&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

It was a tight fit, required heating the block and chilling the bung.

Ken Aron

That's it.

Paul Lamar

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