Subject: Yesterday I solved the German Energy Problem
From: "rotaryeng@earthlink.net" <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>
Date: 3/1/2015, 7:04 PM
To: AA-1-Me

Germany has many large wind mills. The gear boxes and generators are
expensive. The problem is there is no way of storing the energy. When
the wind blows there is not always a need for the power.

Here is a relatively low cost way of storing the energy. The wind
turbines are used as water pumps similar to oil pumps. No gear box.
No generator. The generator is replaced by a simple large water tank
on top of the pylon to store the energy.

The ground level water tank can be a lake. The water is recycled.

Many turbines can feed the same generator.

Paul & Robin Lamar in Germany

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Hi Paul;

It's a good idea - called pumped storage hydro that is not used as much
as it could-should be for load balancing the grid...
There are a few examples of coupled PSH + nuclear running 100% of the
time to good effect to effectively double peak output for a fractional
increase in capital costs.
Conservation is only lip service...some foolish generators actually PAY
others to take excess power!

Cheers
Cary




Paul,
the basic concept you describe already exists in Niagara Falls. People who stand next to Niagara are often awe inspired by the millions of gallons that flow every second. what most don't realize is that the are only sing 25% to 50% of the real flow. At night when power demand is low and the tourist sight are closed,75% of the water is diverted to the 22 Billion gallon reservoir (would qualify as a big lake in many places) and essentially stored till the next morning. When power demand is high, and they want to keep the Falls beautiful for tourists, the reservoir is drained to generate even more power. As awe inspiring as it is to stand close to the waterfalls, in reality the maximum anyone sees is 50% of the natural flow and at times only 25%


What the Niagara Reservoir has that is an advantage is that due to the escarpment, the water already starts out at the high elevation, so you don't have the losses associated with pumping it to high elevation to store the power. Its definitely worth a visit and there is a nice visitor center at the power plant
by the way, they also have a similar system on the Canada side as they do on the New York side


Here is an excerpt from Wikipdia
The pump-generating plant in the Lewiston Dam  is atypical, in that the dam was constructed not to control the flow of water in a natural river, but rather to contain a man-made 1,900-acre (770 ha), 22-billion-US-gallon (83,000,000 m^3 ) upper reservoir  (named the Lewiston Reservoir) which stores the water before being released into the forebay of the Robert Moses Power Station. Water enters the forebay via tunnels from the Niagara River upstream of the natural falls. Water in the forebay is then either pumped up into the upper reservoir or immediately sent down over the escarpment downstream of the natural falls into the Robert Moses Power Station turbines. The Lewiston Pump-Generating Plant 43°08′33″N 79°01′18″W  houses 12 electrically powered pump generators that can generate a combined 240 megawatts (320,000 hp) when water in the upper reservoir is released.


At night, a substantial fraction (600,000 US gallons (2,300 m^3 ) per second) of the water in the Niagara River is diverted to the forebay by two 700-foot (210 m) tunnels. Electricity generated in the Moses plant is used to power the pumps to push water into the upper reservoir behind the Lewiston Dam. The water is pumped at night because the demand for electricity is much lower than during the day. In addition to the lower demand for electricity at night, less water can be diverted from the river during the day because of the desire to preserve the appearance of the falls. During the following day, when electrical demand is high, water is released from the upper reservoir through the pump-generators in the Lewiston Dam. The water then flows into the forebay, where it falls through the turbines of the Moses plant. Some would say that the water is "used twice".


This arrangement is a variant of what is called pumped-storage hydroelectricity.  Engineers copied what had been built by Ontario Hydro, across the river, when a similar system was built during construction of the Sir Adam Beck generating station II in the 1950s.
This system allows energy to be stored in vast quantities. At night, the potential energy  in the diverted water is converted into electrical energy  in the Moses plant. Some of that electrical energy is used to create potential energy when the water is pumped into the reservoir behind the Lewiston Dam. During the day, part of the potential energy of the water in the Lewiston reservoir is converted into electricity at the Lewiston Dam, and then its remaining potential energy is captured by the Moses Dam, which is also capturing the potential energy of the water diverted from the river in real-time.

Regards

Simon Saba


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