Subject: Ford planetary gears
From: "rotaryeng@earthlink.net" <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>
Date: 3/14/2015, 11:52 AM
To: AA-1-Me


   Thanks you Gentlemen,

   I will get the CAD drawing done from one these CAD freelancers on
   the net and post back the results. . Just one question - which of
   the three SAE 1,2,3 will go with the FORD transmission parts from
   slausons ?

   Regards Zahid Rahman

   ​

   I saw this photo o various Ford planetary gears on the website, how
   does each one effect the reduction ratios

   The planet carriere with the square theet is 3.12 and the other is
   2.85. Hold the ring gear in both cases. The flange # goes with any
   gear box. The big flanges are for wood props.

   Paul Lamar hold off on the email. I'll be back in a few days.




   You said the planet carrier with teeth is 3.12 and the other is 2.85.
   I was looking at this gear box
   http://www.aeromomentum.com/gearbox.html <http://www.aeromomentum.com/gearbox.html> he described the ratio of
   his gearbox 2:5:1 Designed for 4 cylinder engine up to 210LB horse
   power. In terms of horse power if that is the correct way to view
   the ratios what horsepower should be used with 2.85 and 3.12


   Zahid Rahman

   Any HP number.

   Here is a little quiz. If I have an engine that generates 200 HP at
   6000 RPM what is the torque?

   Paul Lamar




   Paul,

   What stands between the status quo and a certified engine, if it is
   crystal clear that rotary is the way to go?

   Gordon Gao

   In order to stay in business a company must make a profit. Lycoming
   stated that when the vast majority of customers demand a Wankel
   engine Lycoming would build it. Lycoming would have to build a
   factory to make Wankel engines because the FAA demands a paper trail
   from the mine to the air. This FAA policy hampers innovation. Mazda
   estimates over a billion dollars to build a new Wankel engine
   factory so they keep the one they have.

   Lycoming would then be out of the experimental market which is about
   20 to 30% of the total market for light aircraft engines. Since a
   used Mazda rotary engine is near free Lycoming probably could not
   make money for years to come. Your tax dollars at work.

   I think Mazda should get in the aircraft engine business to better
   utilize their assets but it would be a drop in the bucket to 100,000
   car engines per year. I would do it for PR reasons.

   Paul Lamar



   Greetings Gentlemen,
   I am quiet concerned about the ending of Mazda rotary production and would like to see the Mistrel type av engine fitted with a compound turbo system as per Pauls' CAD drawings. Nothing short of brilliant!

   We have just finished price negotiations on a Seawind 3000 incomplete amphibian kit which we expect to take delivery of next month. We will be installing a 20b Mazda on it with a compound turbo system. Yet to be engineered. Quality reference from anyone having the needed knowledge in turbine sizing/design would be highly appreciated.


   All the manifolding/mountings will be scratch made in house. We have located blade producers to handle blade assemblies.
   I grew up in a family run machine shop and have 25 years as a Plant Engineering Technician.
   Efforts are now moving forward on obtaining ample funding for an additive machining center to produce honey combed interior shaft assemblies and end covers to further reduce weight and bring production costs down.
   100 pounds of Monel reduced to 27 pounds of shaft leaves a lot of time and material on the floor!

   We also have a huge existing residential market use for an affordable 45 hp rotary with a blow down turbo. Which we will not disclose for engineering with out an NDA. $5,000 for an Axiro is more than a bit much!

   Cheers Ya-All,
   Michael Nash


As to the torque question; 175 lb ft @ the 6000 RPM.
Michael Nash, A p-p20B will be about 500HP naturally aspirated. The Detroit Diesel DD15 engine uses an axial flow turbine for power recovery. Paul plans to test one shortly once his ignition system is complete. The big issue with the DD15 part is the cast iron housing which is heavy for aircraft use. If the housing was copied in TitaniumAluminide the weight would be close to 3/8 of the iron part. This should add about 125HP with no extra fuel burn. A p-port turbocharged 13B should put out 500HP and then the same benefit with the DD15 turbine assembly with close to the 20B weight before adding the power recovery turbine.  I think building a new front cover with a gear case would make the power recovery install more compact off to the side. Also provision for driving a cabin pressure pump could be incorporated.

Dale Davies




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