Subject: Low HP single rotor engine
From: paul lamar
Date: 7/22/2015, 7:45 AM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink


Sir,

I may be missing something here, If the maximum propeller rpm is 2800
. A single rotor engine with max rpm of 1100 with 37 KW @  8750 rpm.
With a reduction drive of 3:1 one could achieve maximum propeller rpm
of 2800.

Why can't this engine with low HP but with high rpm be used on the
Parsons auto gyro ( on YouTube https://youtu.be/QOwb8QRHrMY )which is
currently using the 12a Mazda rotary or can it ?

Best Regards Zahid


37 KW is only 50 HP. A Mazda 12A 2 rotor makes at least 150 HP.
Gyro's, like everything else, fly on HP. It probably takes a minimum
of 110 HP to fly a man carrying  gyro.


Paul Lamar

We just need a modern version of the Hiller Rotorcycle :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiller_YROE

50hp would be more than enough!

-Dan G.

Actually, it wouldn't, if you want the helicopter to do useful
things besides hover in ground effect at sea level. Paul's number of
110 hp for a single man carrying gyro is about right, and 150+ hp for
a single man carrying VTOL aircraft, 200 hp for a very light
two-seater like a Robinson R22. Yes, you can store a bit of energy to
make a jump takeoff in a gyroplane if you're lucky. The design
boffins at NASA Langley who are looking at all kinds of wild designs
come up with the same numbers. No avoiding the fact that if you want
to hover you need to produce as much thrust as it weighs, plus a
margin to allow for wind.

David Josephson

http://youtu.be/Qh1SGnNte5Q

Seems like it'd be great for personal transportation...like a commuter, or weekend fun.

-Dan G.

Lets get gyros and helicopter separated. I think helicopters
are more efficient than gyros. A gyro is more like a powered parachute.

That Hiller should have caught on big time. Maybe the training problem killed it.
I had no idea it was only 50 HP. Looks like the pilot was small
and skinny :-)

IMHO this is a better solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh2Ym7ehb8k

He did not invent the idea.

I plan to use this counter rotating device and control system  in in
my VTOL aircraft idea.

http://www.rotaryeng.net/VTOL.html

This has been on the ACRE web site for years.

So many things to do! So little time :-)

Paul Lamar

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