Subject: Spark Plugs in rotor.
From: paul lamar
Date: 8/21/2015, 10:09 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink



A few days ago we (Chris Wade and I) thought we have made a great
invention by putting spark plugs on the rotor, and thereby eliminate
  the leak across the plug hole.  We contemplate to file a patent. I
am a patent attorney so I take up the task of drafting.  At that
point I found two US patents on the idea.  Too bad.  But those
patents would not work in our view as they did not deal with the
issue of insulation of the high voltage.

Gordon GAO



I got bad news for you Gordon. There is no leakage across the plug
holes. To get leakage you need a pressure difference.

Down load Kenichi Yamamoto books  from here that deal with this and
many other rotary engine subjects..

http://www.rotaryeng.net/interesting.html


http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/manuals/REbyKenichiYamamoto-1971.pdf

http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/manuals/REbyKenichiYamamoto-1981.pdf

Paul Lamar


Just a small comment,

NSU started out with spark plugs in the Rotor, in their DKM machines.
It likely is anticipated. Of course improvement patents are always
possible but who would make it more complicated? You need 3 plugs and
a sliding contact somewhere. Changing plugs requires motor
disassembly.

Rolf Pfeiffer

Just another small comment,

I don't think that a sliding contact is needed, to implement spark
plugs in a wankel's rotor. Inductive coupling between stator and
rotor, located on the flat side wall,  would do the job nicely.

However  I read that some reasearch work has been conducted to
replace spark

plugs by laser pulses that illuminate all the chamber volume. That
seems to me to much more promising than a rotor spark plug
configuration

Has anyone heard of that and about some results of these studies ?

Philippe Dejean.

If you hear about it and a year passes with out appearance it did
not work :)

Paul Lamar


      Some patents exist with plugs located in side plates, Ford
applied for one in
     1978, but I guess their were not the only ones.
       Have a good season, best regards, + salut
          Jose Gros-Aymerich
      Madrid, Spain

Here is some of the patent. Ford spent money building it and testing it.
Nice try.

Obviously it did not work as nobody sold a rotary with this arrangement.


Paul Lamar

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 Patent Quote
"Test results were collected using an engine rig making it possible to fire 1, 2 or 4 spark plugs per rotor in the side housings (the 4 plug arrangement has one pair at the leading position and one pair at the trailing position of the compression pocket), and 2 plugs in the peripheral trochoid wall per rotor. These results indicated that one or two spark plugs located in the periphery of the rotor housing, in conformity with prior art constructions. consist- ently gave lower brake horsepower than the symmetrically arranged 2 side spark plug construction and the 4 side spark plug construction (with the pairs fired with '00 lag between them).

With reference to brake specific fuel consumption, the lowest was obtained with the firing of two or four  symmetrically arranged spark plugs in a trailing position in the side housing; peripherally located spark plugs gave low fuel consumption at high road load speeds/horsepower ratios. The highest fuel consumption may result when only unsymmetrical side spark plugs are fired, such as one plug only in a side housing.The reason for improved fuel economy with this invention is explained by a modified flame front.

In Figure 7, a typical flame front for leading ~d trailing spark access openings in a peripheral spark port engine of the prior art is plotted. A flame front is designated by a line centred about one of the openings and has a lateral component extending along the width of combustion chamber (abscissa in millimetres) and extends substantially forwardly in the direction of rotation (see arrow) along the length of the chamber (ordinate, in millimetres measured from the minor axis of the trochoid). The different flame fronts represent the time lag from ignition to ionization represented by degrees of rotation of the eccentric shaft.

Note that the flame front tends to proceed in the direction of rotation and back-up in a direction counter to rotation is relatively small. This is due to strong compression turbulence and quenching on the trailing side which slows down the flame travel counter to, rotation.

As shown in Figure 7, the flame front emanating from the trailing spark access opening 190 never adequately proceeds across the chamber and leave pockets of uncombusted fuel. The trailing spark access opening'190 is smaller than the leading opening 191, for the reasons described earlier. ,Thus. to fully combust the mixture, the leading position is required which results in low efficiency since it is coming too late in time to do the total job.

The symmetrical side spark openings 192 in the trailing position of Figure 8 represent the preferred mode of this invention. Note the thorough coverage of the chamber by the flame front early in ignition event. The flame propagation proceeds from opposite points of the compression pocket and has less distance to travel to provide uniform combustion of the compressed mixture within the time limit available. Maxtmum pressure from the flame front is 0 reached at about 15 of eccentric shaft movement after top dead center; at this point, the pressure rise can be as high as 60 psi per degree, although a maximum rise of 40 psil degree is more desirable.

The flame front should be in the position shown for a flame front at 150 to obtain smooth operation of the engine. If the maximum pressure is reached earlier or later, considerable roughness is encountered. To obtain a maximum pressure at 15 ATDC for the trailing plug opening 190, firing must be earlier which produces negative work causing a .Loss in power of 11-15'. 'rhe symm- etrical arrangement of this invention reduces negative work substantially. "

End patent quote.




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