Subject: outboard
From: paul lamar
Date: 6/29/2016, 8:53 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink


Paul,
Has anyone ever put a 13B on an outboard motor? I have a blown big Evenrude, and was just pondering ideas.

Regards,
Norm Parmley

Not that I know of but that is a great idea. With aluminum end houses it might  weigh about the same. You would need a dry sump pump to handle the oiling system. With a turbo it would be one spectacular out board.

How much HP was the Evenrude? New big Evenrudes are about $15,000

Paul Lamar


If  memory serves me correctly, OMC spent a great deal of time and money developing a rotary outboard. It Rocked!!!, However, I think that had problems in two areas that prevented it from coming to market.

1. the vertical  orientation created problems with lubrication

2, ecologically it was not great as in oil in the exhaust and "oil slicks" in the water.

I occasionally have lunch with x- OMC guys and I will try to find out more about it when we meet.

Rich Goldman

That is a possibility. The vertically orientation could cause problems with oiling.  But I don't think that is insurmountable.  A dry sump pump IMHO could do the job. Sachs built a lawn mower with a vertical engine.

All two cycles had that oil in the water problem. Somehow Mercury and maybe OMC solved it. Two cycles out boards are still available I think.

https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/br/engines/outboard/twostroke/

Maybe not in California :-)

Paul Lamar


   Part of the oil slick solution is synthetic oils that allow leaner oil ratios.

Dale Davies


OMC 4-rotor

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?186454-OMC-s-4-Rotor-Wankel-Racing-Engine-The-Real-Story

Jim Rudholm


   As told by John Sheldon
   Former OMC rotary engineer
   PREFACE


   After the successful introduction of the 35 HP and 45 HP air cool/charged cooled snowmobile engine, OMC started working on water cooled/charged cooled variants of the same engine. Basically all the parts were the same except the housings, which were water cooled.
Contrary to previous OMC, Curtis Wright and Mazda water cooled engines which had the water flowing axially; parallel to the crankshaft; these engines were partially circumferentially cooled. Water entered before the spark plug, ran around the rotor housing and exited around the exhaust port. The side housings picked up water at the entrance point for the rotor housing, travel across the hot section of the housing and exited at a low pressure point after the exhaust port.

Both single and dual rotor engines had been prototype and development work had begun. The single rotor produced 50/55 HP and the 2 rotor produced 110/120 HP. The increase in HP was due to the improved volumetric efficiency (increased air flow) due to the lower temperatures resulting from water-cooling.


Both these engines were configured for outboard use and were coupled to current lower units. At one board of directors meeting the twin rotor engine was mounted to a boat for demo rides. The tachometer was disconnected and the engine was left running. Every one that got into the boat turned the key to start the engine. There was no noise, no motion, no vibration. It was impressive.


BIRTH OF THE 4 ROTOR RACE ENGINE
Charlie Strang was the head of OMC at the time. At the world championships in Lake Havasu in 1972, Johnny Sanders won the race for Johnson, but only because Mercury broke. It was clearly apparent Mercury was faster than the OMC engines.


Both companies were running 100 ci 2-cycle engines, but Mercury had an in line 6 cylinder and the OMC engines were V-4’s. The additional cylinders of the Mercury engines allow more air flow, resulting in additional power. The Mercury engine was producing approximately 200HP while the OMC V-4 was producing approximately 175 HP. There wasn’t much to do to get around this.

After the race, in October, Charlie Strang came by to chat with George Miller. George was head of the rotary engine engineering group at the time. He confirmed with George that the 2 rotor engine was producing
115/120 HP. He speculated with George if we stacked 2 of the twins on top of one another, we would have an engine that produced 240 HP and we would finally have a chance to “beat those black bastards”.

George reluctantly agreed, but pointed out to Charlie he didn’t have the manpower to assign to the project and it most likely would take a year or two. Charlie agreed, but said lets delay some of the other programs and put some one on it. Besides, he said, racing will find weaknesses and force development much faster than conventional engineering development.


As he was leaving George’s office he said “oh, by the way, I want to race them at Parker, Az in March. So began what was referred to as HSXL; Havasu experimental limited and was assigned the project # D706.

 INITIAL DESIGN WORK
   Reluctantly George assigned Mike Griffith to the program. The first issue addressed was the crankshaft. A stationary gear is required for each rotor and its pitch diameter is dictated by engine geometry and can’t be changed. Because this is smaller than the eccentric diameter, either the crankshaft or stationary gear has to be split. It was decided to keep the stock stationary gear and use 2 –two rotor crankshafts, some how magically held together in the middle. Mike remembered Mercedes Benz had used a coupling on their 3 and 4 rotor engines put into their C-111 experimental cars.


After a little research, Mike found out Gleason Works had a curvic coupling that resembles an involute gear standing on its end. OMC was one of Gleason Works biggest customers. After a few phone calls a curvic coupling design was developed by Gleason that would work for this application. Because of the separating forces generated by the curvic coupling and the fact we wanted the crankshaft to think it was one piece (more on this later) an enormous clamping load was required to hold the two cranks together. The solution was a thru bolt; a very special thru bolt. It was 7/8” in diameter and was made from EDT-180. A material having 180,000 psi minimum yield strength. The bolt was necked down along it center section to equalize the stress in the threaded ends, due to stress riser from the threads.

The decision was also made to have 180 degree eccentric spacing instead of 90 degrees. This allowed the engine to be dynamically balanced without counter weights and use 2 of the current 2 rotor crankshafts.
Rotors 1 and 4 along with 2/3 were in phase with each other. Because 2 rotors fired at the same time, the stock ignition system from the twin rotor could be used. Each plug had its own coil, but only 2 triggers were used.

Charlie Strang came up with the idea on mounting the engine almost directly to the gear case eliminating the conventional mid-section and lowering the overall height of the package; i.e. lower center of gravity would me faster turns. Thus the so-called bucket came into being. It had to be tall enough to keep water from spilling over when at rest or idle and be waterproof.

It was decided to use stock snowmobile carbs and all the internal hardware; rotors, seals, bearings, etc. This minimized the new parts that need to be designed and produced. Remember race in March. With the conceptual design complete, detail design started. All of the housings had to be new as long thru bolts outside of the conventional 2 rotor engine thru bolts were used to hold every thing together. Also, the bottom housing of the top engine and the top housing of the bottom engine had to be modified to allow mounting to the steering arm and the two engine to stand on each other.

New snowmobile flywheels were cast without counter weights and using existing 2 rotor crankshaft castings allowed the modification for the coupling and thru bolt. The exhaust system for the 2 rotor was a steel casting with deflectors turning the exhaust flow 90 degrees downward.
Two of these were used on the 4 rotor with the housings acting as the water cooled box around them.

Designs were completed, parts were ordered and the first engine was assembled. The day of reckoning came and the engine was ready for its first dyno run. The engine produced 220 HP at 6500 RPM. Acceptable for the first try, but disappointing none the less. This was also crankshaft HP and the gear case absorbed approximately 15 HP. This meant the power to the prop wasn’t much more than the V-4.

  INITIAL POWER DEVELOPMENT

   We knew from previous work that the exhaust restriction was hindering power and the engine was somewhat subjective to exhaust tuning. This is where I entered the program. It was the first of the year and we were running out of time. The bosses decided we would work 2 – 12 hr shifts, 7 days a week. Illinois labor laws say an hourly paid worker can only work 13 days in a row and then must have a day off. The law didn’t apply to salaried people so Mike and I were on 12/7.

Unfortunately, Mike got sick the first week on this schedule and ended up in the hospital. This meant I had to cover both shifts. I would go home at 2 in the morning and return at 6. We started by removing the butterfly in the peripheral port, enlarged the bore and venturis of the carbs and started working on exhaust tuning.

The dynos at OMC did not have remote controls at that time so the operator and others including myself were in the dyno rooms while the engine was running. If anyone ever heard these engines run at the races, multiply that time ten and that gives you an idea what it was like in the dyno room.

After determining what exhaust length gave the best power, the challenge was package it in the space that already existed in the original design.
Mike and his designer came up with the solution and had parts made. The system was made from 6 aluminum casting welded together. The fear was the enormous heat of the rotary exhaust would melt the castings. As a result, a second water pump was added that only cooled the exhaust system. With the additions of all these changes, power went up to 260 crankshaft HP.

The next hurtle to cross, would it survive the 9 hrs of Parker. An engine was built and mounted on a old twin engine Molinari racing tunnel. We took it to our Florida test base in Stuart and ran up and down the Indian River above the locks. The engine performed well and was cruising in excess of 100 MPH even though we weren’t pushing things. The first day went fine without incident. About half way thru the second day, the driver got it too high out of corner and blew it over backwards. The water was only 10 ft deep so the motor end went to the bottom and the front stuck out of the water. We could not see the driver and feared he was stuck in the boat under water. Jack Leek and I were in the chase boat and started immediately to the crash sight.
Unfortunately, we didn’t even get on plane and the engine quit.

Franticly we tried to figure out what was wrong and restart the engine.
We had run out of gas! After quickly changing tanks we rushed to the sight. On the way there I stripped down to my skivvies ready to dive in and rescue the driver. The day before we had seen a 12 ft alligator lying on the shore but today he wasn’t there. All I could think on the way to the crash site was diving into the water and having that alligator show up.

As we got closer we saw Rich bobbing behind the boat. The front of the boat sticking out of the water had blocked our view of him. I dove in and grabbed Rick. He was mad as a hornet, but not hurt. Off to the hospital for him; standard procedure for any driver that goes into the water. My technician and I went with the chase boat and hauled the boat back on the trailer. After taking the spark plugs out, cranking it over to clean out the water and replacing the plugs the engine started back up and ran just fine. We let it run for a half hour squirting oil in the carbs every once in awhile.

Now what? A call went into Jimbo McConnell and he flew down the next day and finished the 10 hrs of testing. We all felt pretty good about going to Parker. While I was in Fl. Mike built two engines for the Miami press demo and then onto Parker. The press demo went very well and the guys headed for

Parker  note; of all the pictures you see of the boats running you can tell the Miami boat as they did not have the fuel fill caps installed yet.


THE PARKER RACE

We had two boats at Parker. The Evinrude was driven by Jimbo McConnell and the Johnson by Tommy Posey. They were the talk of the prerace scene.
The gear case used for the initial races was a twin pinion 15/17 ratio.
This is used for max top speed. Parker was a “run what you brung” race, outboards, inboards, jet boats, hydros, single engine, dual engines, and even triples. It’s a river race with the boats going 6 ½ miles up the river, turn around and come back.


The race went off as scheduled and everyone held their breath to see who would lead the first lap. Here they came with the two rotaries side by side; 1-2; with a 7 liter 3 point hydro chasing them. The hydro had been clocked at 140mph the week before. Consider the world speed record for outboards was 136 mph at the time. The driver of the hydro had bet
$1000.00 he would lead the first lap and was doing everything but running upside down trying to catch the two rotaries. Jimbo and Tommy coolly drove by the crowd waving as they went. A big wave went to the Mercury camp as they flew by. Mike and I were all smiles and feeling pretty good about all the long hours and work we had put in.

As the boats approached for the second lap, Tommy was still in first by a big margin, but Jimbo was nowhere to be seen. We found out shortly his engine had failed. Tommy continued to lead, but succumbed to engine failure before the first hour was complete. We went home dejected and waited for the guys to drive the boats back from Parker. As soon as they returned, we tore the engines apart and found failed rotor bearings. In reviewing the dyno sheets I found the engines were producing 265 HP on
18 gph of gas.

That’s BS Fuel Consumption [BSFC] better then most diesels. In talking with Mike, he had adjusted each carb for max power and didn’t believe the fuel flow meters. He went out and bought 4 new Cox certified flow meters and repeated the run with the same result. He didn’t believe the data but had to button up the engines to leave for Miami.

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Charged cooled. Of course the rotor bearing failed :-) Paul Lamar

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End of part 1



Thanks for that, Now I will have nothing to talk about with my OMC friends

Rich Goldman

Thanks for the history lesson.

Norm Parmley

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