Subject: Water injection: Bosch does it
From: paul lamar
Date: 9/12/2016, 4:27 AM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink




I have seen this announcement:
http://newatlas.com/bosch-water-injection/45205/?li_source=LI&li_medium=default-widget

Bosch is a very serious company, so it may become real.

Philippe CHENEVIER

The government will figure out how to tax water used in engines.
Otherwise there will be a huge loss in tax revenue to the
government:-)

Right now the gasoline tax in Europe is right around $5 a gallon.
Then there is the question of an increase in humidity with all that
steam coming out of  exhaust pipes  :-)

The water will have to be filtered as other wise it will leave
deposits in the engine and in the water tanks.  Filtered drinking
water cost $1.28 a gallon in the US grocery stores. About one dollar
a gallon  cheaper than gasoline in the US.

In California we have a water shortage so the price of food will go
up as the farmers use 80% of the total water supply :-)

Paul Lamar


Paul, Your response is right out of the Beatles record.  And all so
true . . . sadly!

But you can’t buy gasoline for $2.28  gallon in California. john
dinkel


Its as little as a $1.75 in the rest of the US.

Paul Lamar


Back in the '70s, we water injected a Chrysler/Dodge 360CID v8
with a rudimentary system, just to test the effects.

This engine was in a step van full of electronic gear for my
father's employer (a two-radio install/repair company).

We had a location we needed to go to from time to time that was
on a mountain and had switch backs going up to it. The step van
had 3 on the tree, and we would have to stop and get it into 1st
gear (it wasn't synchronized), after going around a switch back
(didn't have enough torque for 2nd gear).

With the simplistic water injection we did, we were able to climb
that mountain between 2nd and 3rd gear, without ever needing to
get into 1st once we got started). Meanwhile, back then the EPA
was saying that water injection didn't work. We knew better
because we knew that WWII fighters used water injection, and what
we did was empirical evidence they were, uh, all wet (pun intended).

We also noticed that various knocking from the engine went away
with the use of this water injection system, and that the engine
ran cooler and used less fuel (not a fantastic amount less, but
it was 2-3 MPG better).

Again, this was just a rudimentary system and we were only using
a 5 gallon can that was connected to a vacuum line running under
the carburettor. Just had to remember to turn the valve off or it
would siphon enough to hydro-lock the engine.

After it did that once, my father disconnected the whole thing
because he was afraid it would do damage to the engine (it had
aluminum intake manifolds as I recall).

Regards,
Steve Thompson


Hi Paul and others,
I had a similar system on a Peugeot 505, it was a handyman kit that I bought at a car racing meet. IIRC it had a manifold connection to an ON-OFF tap, so that it would only operate when the motor was running. Also, I think the instructions said to mount the reservoir below the manifold to avoid the drain problem mentioned above. The ‘mixture’ could be adjusted by a tapered needle valve in the feed line. It worked OK and gave a modest increase in power. It was good in summer and balanced the power absorbed by the air-con, so I guess it was worth a couple of hp.
Dave Mccandless in Perth


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