Paul,

Is anyone doing research into other fuel types with the Mazda Wankel?

Ethanol/Methanol/Alcohol?

What about Hydrogen and/or Dissociated Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) …..?

Over the past few years I have been working on a concept that would
potentially be able to produce copious amounts of DDHMO, and should be
comparable in $/joule to high octane gasoline, possibly cheaper. The
benefits would of course be the fact that it would be renewable, carbon
neutral and non-polluting.

Because of the acidic nature would need to be handled properly in the
plumbing system, fuel rail, fuel tanks, etc.

 James C. Reyna

Aquatic Design Specialist


They will all work.
What is wrong with gasoline?

Paul Lamar


Paul et al,

Lets clarify one thing: in spite all the BS piling up from the CEC (California Energy Commission) and the EPA. Hydrogen is NOT "carbon neutral" and is NOT "non polluting". It takes a lot of energy to get hydrogen in liquid form . It takes a lot of energy to maintain it in that state, and you can forget about transporting it in pipelines for nearly nothing. I think 80 percent of our atmosphere is made out of Nitrogen. You can literally have as much Nitrogen as you want in gas form for free and we will never run out, So logic would have it that liquid Nitrogen should be really cheap. Hydrogen is also as abundant as Nitrogen. With such abundance, why isn't compressed / liquid Hydrogen and Nitrogen nearly free??? They certainly are not!, in fact Hydrogen costs more than gasoline (in spite of 40% of your cost of gasoline being taxes, vs 0% for hydrogen). We already produce many millions of metric tons of H2 and N2 so its certainly not a manufacturing scale issue.  The obvious reason for this higher cost is the energy it takes to compress and store this fool's fuel.

I was just looking at some charts from the US Energy Information Agency and they project that coal (18% of our current fuel consumption) will still be 18% in 2040. Biofuels which they are shoving on us with massive subsidies and mandatory percentages added to your gasoline is currently 1% of fuel consumption and will remain at 1% in 2040. Meanwhile the diversion of food growing fields to Methanol corn growing fields has increased the food in the US much faster than the average inflation (Besides paying for it at the tank you pay much more thanks to ethanol during every visit to the supermarket or restaurant. None of these policymakers has enough guts to admit the push for methanol rules had net zero effect on the environment because they moved the pollution from the tail pipe to the growing fields and processing plants. Farming and especially fertilizer manufacturing is incredible energy intensive. I was just in Virginia / MD area where a gallon of gas hovered between $1.95-$2.05 at most stations. while in California where 10% ethanol is mandated adder to the fuel, the cost per gallon is $2.60 to $2.90. You can easily figure out the billions that they charge the individuals for these misguided fuel policies

Of course the Government leaches will do everything possible and use every trick in the book to shove what is the "popular fuel of the day" on us, even when the numbers don't add up and even if it ruins the economy and the environment in the process. Biofuels are now clearly a farce so they are starting to pump "Hydrogen" because no one is willing to do the full impact analysis in advance. And when the Hydrogen farce gets exposed, they will find another "popular fuel of the day" ... maybe compressed liquid air

With the above said, if and when the Government idiots subsidize (and likely fully fund) the building of a massive hydrogen infrastructure, you will start seeing hydrogen internal combustion engines popping up on the market. I remember a lecture by Dr. Roney of USC (an expert in thermodynamics, and I believe he is also an astronaut) where he said, if you insist on using hydrogen as a fuel, from an efficiency perspective you are far better off burning it in an engine rather than using a $200,000 fuel cell in your vehicle to convert it to electricity and then use the electricity to drive the car.

Incidentally, Mazda already built and tested a hydrogen rotary engine about a decade ago.

Simon Saba


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