Subject: European mufflers.
From: paul lamar
Date: 12/9/2016, 7:36 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink


That TTC project looks really nice guys ! I know that you have the knowhow and the right set of hands to get this accomplished. In Europe, we're still only a rare few to fly rotary, there's an RV10 in Denmark, a Sportsman in
Germany, and me with my Glasair in France. I'm hoping to get the g-300 Maule flying for mistral in the near future.

Noise is my greatest concern. We still fly with the non-compatible absorption muffler, and i'm really worried about the bad reputation the rotary is getting here because of noise. I keep flying limited to 3 flights per month because of that, a hard feat after spending 12.000 hrs building.


I'm now sticking my antenna's out and aim to get a good solution.
Mistral is helping but they have other priorities for the near future.
 I gather you have less pressure to get low noise emission in the US, but if
 you find a good ( even temporary solution) i'd like to hear from you.

Paul sent me a good set of data on a muffler which was used on an RV, but i tried that and it was still too loud.
The tangential muffler by rochhausen in munich is promising, but i'd say there's still a lot to be squeezed out in Db.
Good luck and have fun with the project

Paul Janssens

IMHO That anti private airplane noise is just a political ploy to punish non egalitarians  :-)
There are too few private pilots in Europe  so the counter political power is inadequate.
We have the AOPA and the EAA fighting the boring alcoholic egalitarians :-)

There is a Brezzy in Germany as well. Karl Frederich Schmidt is building a Brezzy'

You may need two mufflers. A tangentially in the cowl with a 3 meter long coaxial under the air plane.

The large diameter of the coaxial out let lowers the frequency of the noise making it more acceptable
to people.

Start with 25... 5 mm holes in the inner pipe. If that affects the power drill more.
 Larger holes are shown but the area of 25 ....5 mm holes should be sufficient.
The  150 mm size of the outer pipe will lower the noise frequency.

The stationary noise will be higher so don't compare. The only valid comparison is a fly over.
The air flow between the outer pipe and inner pipe is key to the coaxial. It also cools well..

Here are the 3D's

Paul Lamar