Subject: Best technical paper so far.
From: paul lamar
Date: 12/28/2016, 3:32 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink



Implementation of a Rotary Engine (Wankel Engine) in a CFD Simulation
Tool with Special Emphasis on Combustion and Flow Phenomena
2015-01-0382 <tel:2015-01-0382>  Published 04/14/2015

IMHO This is the best technical paper on the Wankel so far.

Frank Herfert  found it. Thanks Frank.

"In summary, the loss analysis shows that the main losses of the
Wankel engine result from the protracted and retarded combustion.
Consequently, the wall heat losses are lower than expected. "

" The mechanical losses, as well as the gas exchange losses, are
lower than comparable conventional spark ignition reciprocating
engines. The comparison between the investigated Wankel engine and a
normally aspirated, throttle-controlled gasoline engine with port
fuel injection under full load and high revolutions, is illustrated
in Figure 37."


"The largest deficits of the Wankel engine can be found in the area
of combustion (implementation loss due to incomplete implementation
of the fuel and combustion loss ) and leakage loss. The lower wall
heat release loss , compared to the conventional gasoline engine,
results from the late and delayed combustion. The lower mechanical
losses and charge exchange losses arise from the port control and
consequently, absence of the valve train."

What they did not investigate was multiple sparks  on the same spark
plugs or more spark plugs. In effect, unlike a piston engine, the
combustion travels past the spark plugs. In a piston engine the
combustion moves away from the spark plugs some what.

That is where my new high speed CD ignition system comes in to play.
It is capable of firing the plugs six  times.....five  degrees apart
at 8000 RPM. Patent is still pending.

It can be tested now, on a dyno, using multiple MSD capacitor
discharge ignition systems fired by a high speed computer 5 degrees
apart at 6 to 8K RPM.

I do not have a dyno to test this but I can supply the control
computer. Simon Saba has a rotary engine dyno in northern
California. Please Simon, see if you can get the money to try this.

Paul Lamar


Hi!: as discussed, I requested Kevin Landers, from
RotaryResurrection, to implement the Fujikawa, Kawasaki, combustion
promoting improvement plug hole triangular extension, pointing to the
trailing side of working chamber (Patent 3848574, of 1974), but it
took over one year for the tuned 1987 13B NA the engine to arrive
from NJ to Barcelona, and it's still pending to be installed in my
1976 AMC Pacer Sedan, along with a Mazda RX-7 four speed plus reverse
automatic transmission, if the project is concluded, I'll try making
a comparative test with an ordinary 6-L 4.2 liter AMC Pacer, and let
you know results.

Thanks, have a nice 2017, best regards, + Salut †

Jose Gros-Aymerich

Madrid, Spain

   I don't think you will learn much Jose.

   The best BSFC islands are in entirely different places for the Pacer and
   the RX7.
   The Pacer has much more frontal area and the drag coefficient is much higher
   than the RX7.

   Paul Lamar


   Hello Paul, I think of Austro Engine because at the end of the first
   paragraph of the Introduction the Austro Engine Company is called the
   research partner of the Technical University of Vienna ... If you have a
   look at table 2, the Vc is 404 cc - exactly the volume, Austro engine
   has given in the description of 2009 - please see the enclosed
   screen shot. It must be an existing engine, because they have it run on a

   test bed ... But the 407 cc engine from the Wankel AG has a width of 6,5
   cm, not 7,44 cm. So I've guessed, that it's the AE75R prototype ;-)
   Perhaps there is yet another engine of this size - of course I do not
   know all RE in the world today ;-)

   But I think, that it's not very important, which engine they've analysed
   in Vienna. Their work is rearly serious - without "pink glasses".

   It's a good base for further development ...

   I have a "strange" idea related to the trailing section problem -
   perhaps I will try to explain it with Paint, although I think, the
   mechanics will not work / will not be feasible ... ;-)

   Yours very truly - I wish you a perfect start into the new year

Franky / Frank Herfert

   I was at the Austro engines factory in 2001.
   Here are some pictures.


   Paul Lamar


   On that graph with blue red colors I am not sure what is meant by
   'Implementation loss'.

   Item 3 does not sound to be right. The wall surfaces of the Wankel are
   admittedly larger than on the RPE.

   Hello Franky. If you can show your idea, then pass it by us, but only if
   it is not confidential. Or, if you would like, get back to me privately.
   Paul may pass on my email address.

   Rolf Pfeiffer

   "Efficiency Loss Due to Combustion Loss
   The real combustion in the engine is not isochoric and does not take
   place at TDC. Thus, this loss can be divided into two.
   Efficiency loss due to the center of heat release
   According to. 42  it is assumed that the energy conversion takes
   place isochorically, but not at the TDC, but based on the real position
   of the MBF50 of combustion.
   Efficiency loss due to real heat release
   In this step, the real duration and shape of the heat release is
   considered. In Figure 32, areas that are enclosed between isochoric
   and real combustion processes are marked. These have to be
   accumulated and considered as loss."


   Here is fig 32.


   The reason the wall loses are lower is the energy loss in the
   combustion results in less heat getting into the walls compared
   to a piston engine. It would probably be higher if the combustion
   was improved. We are very close. Ignition of all the mixture
   as soon as possible is the key. Surface mount spark plugs well
   a head of TDC would help greatly. The Mazda Lemans had
   3 spark plugs the third being head of the regular two.

   I have suspected this for years. Here is a drawing I did in 1998.

   Paul Lamar


   Hello Paul,

   it's after one o'clock in the night now - so I will only send "some remarks"
   ... ;-)

   Enclosed you will find the Screen shot, I've talked about - I've simply
   forgotten it - sorry, sorry ... ;-)

   To Rolf ...
   I have the book you've described - it's written in a positive point of view
   + that's ok ... ;-)

   Unfortunately there are only a few books available - e.g. by Ulrich Knapp,
   2006, Waxmann Verlag GmbH, ISBN 3-8309-1637-x, with interesting details ...
   (German)

   I don't think, that my "idea" is worth to be discussed seriously - will more
   a kind of joke - well, on paper there's everything possible, but in reality
   ... ;-)
   __________

   To Jose in Madrid ...
   the figures in the patent US 3.848.574 are showing a rather big opening - so
   the question is, how much blow back there will be ...

   Perhaps you get in trouble with hot residual burning gases, that "find"
   their way into the following chamber - means danger of preignition far
   before TC + "negative torque" ...

   Or you will loose some fresh mixture out of the following chamber into the
   leading exhausting one ...

   Generally you can say, the smaller your "openings" for ignition or
   injection, the "better" ...

   But since you haven't tried it, you can't be sure ... ;-)


   May be, that you can transfer some unburned rich mixture from the
   "forerunner" to the following chamber - you can see an example in the
   preview of the SAE paper 2007-32-0098 (small RE for unmanned helicopter)...
   ___________

   Combustion in general ...
   the "up+down" freaks are using turbulences since may be 70 years. With some
   swirls / vortexes / eddys you can speed up the combustion "dramatically",
   but you will also get more heat losses to the walls - again "the dose is the
   decisive factor" ... ;-)

   And: flow speed is not the same as turbulence. In the first case a
   relatively thin flame front with only a little active surface "is blown
   forward through the mixture", in the other case you have a big / wide active
   surface - a bit like chain reactions in many different directions, even a
   very little bit against the flow direction ...

   Of course, a strong ignition source will help, too. There are a lot of ideas
   with + without active or passive "pre chambers" to study + then there are
   the ideas by the "Plasma guild" ... ;-)

   At the end the relationship between costs + the gain you may see is the most
   important thing. So, perhaps it's better to wait until Paul's new ignition
   system is available ... ;-)

   But, I think, there are a lot of other people, that do know much, much more
   about combustion kinematics + chemical reactions ... (Dale Davies ?)

   Btw: avoiding leaded AvGas for RE is a good idea for two reasons ...
     - lead hinders the fast + proper "growing" of the oil film on the trochoid
   surface (less important in Mazda engines since 1986)
     - lead is a combustion retarder - it slows the burning speed (therefore it
   was used as "anti knock solution" in the last century ...)


   Now it's late enough here in "old europe" ;-)


   With kindest regards

   Franky / Frank Herfert


   That patent  is so old (1974) that over 2.5 million Mazda engines have
   been sold since then. If it had worked it would be used by now.

   Good point on the lead. In theory aviation fuel is now low lead but I
   wonder what they use now to retard knock.

   The choice of the Austro engine for research is a bad choice as they use
   high pressure air to cool the rotor and rotor bearing instead of oil cooling. That is
   a BSFC penalty of almost 10%
   due to the HP consumed by the blower. That type of rotary is typically
   .53 BSFC while a Mazda is .47 BSFC. lbs/HP per hour.

   A another thing about that paper is the emphasis on "squish flow".

   I quote.

   "Due to the squish flow, the flame propagation is retarded [11] against
   the direction of rotation of the rotor and intensifies the wall heat flux.
   As proved, the remaining unburned mixture combusts until it has escaped
   from the

   trailing part of the combustion chamber. Figure 29
   shows the process described above with reference to the CFD
   simulation. The flame spreads primarily in the same direction as the
   rotation of the rotor. Similar results are shown in [31] and [32] based
   on test bench measurements and in [16] with the help of CFD
   simulation. The penetration in the opposite direction happens very
   late because of the pronounced squish flow.

   The reason is that the gas velocities of the squish flow in the region of
   the flame formation move at about 70 to 180 m/s (see Figure 30),
   while turbulent flame front speed as a function of pressure,
   temperature and turbulence in the combustion chamber of a
   conventional SI reciprocating engine has a one power lower value,
   shown in [33], [34], [35], [36] and [37]."

   Squish flow is easily over come by moving the bath tub to the trailing
   side of the rotor. As I recall Mazda may have tried this but without
   the aid of the CFD analysis.

   Note the CFD's show two spark plugs side by side. The Austro engine has
   a relatively wide rotor.

   Paul Lamar

   I failed to attach figure 27. Here they all are again.
   If what they say about squish flow is correct in this SAE paper we are on the cusp of a MAJOR
   breakthrough in the fuel burn on rotary engines.

   It is as simple as moving the rotor depression back towards the trailing apex seal.

   Back in 1969 Kenichi Yamamoto wrote the book "Rotary Engine". On page 104 here
   is what he had to say on the subject of chamber position on the rotor.

   "Effect of rotor combustion chamber The location and shape of the hollow combustion chamber of the rotor are , interrelated with the efficiency and quietness of combustion and the required octane value, and they have a substantial influence on general engine performance.
   Fig. 9. 20 shows an ,example of the effect of compressing t~ generate turbulence, and the effect of forming a quenching area to prevent abnormal combustion, calculated for their influence on the speed of gas flow in different types of combustion chambers.

   In terms of the ratio of the combustion chamber surface area to the volume of the combustion chamber at top dead center (s/v), the rotary engine is intrinsically disadvaptageous compared to the reciprocating engine with an equivalent displacement and compression ratio. On the other hand, with a rotary engine, it is easy to generate a turbulent flow, whose speed is far greater than the speed of combustion,  and the trailing side of the rotor forms ~quenching area to reduce the temperature of end gas. These factors contribute to a unique combustion mechanism for the rotary engine which is relatively uncritical to the kind of fuel, and provides superior anti-knocking characteristics."

   It is not clear to me why he chose to put the chamber in the middle of the rotor.

   Hear are the diagrams.

   Pual Lamar

Paul and Frankie,
At the risk of mentioning something that everyone knows about, you should look at the Mercedes Benz info we recently had in the newsletter. Most specifically the drawings of the rotor depression. It would appear to me that they had all the "bases" covered. The depression is considerably different and at the shallow end approaches the apex seal on the trailing edge. It then deepens towards the middle and while longer than the Mazda depression looks less deep. It would seem that they had the same idea  and that was supposed to be their final shape. I have also mentioned several times the studies done in the days of the valve in block flathead days where they found that a clearance of less than .015" would put the fire out. They, (MB) also had the throttle plates either in or very close to the rotor housing for a better idle. I would bet you that if the ceramic apex seals were available when they were running their project, and possibly gasoline direct injection, the C111 would have made it to production.
Bill Jepson

Bill, I don't recall seeing those. Do you have more info on the message?

Paul Lamar

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