Subject: Interesting combustion video
From: paul lamar
Date: 1/20/2017, 6:50 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink





    The video show a Briggs and Stratton running on gasoline alcohol and
    acetylene, I wish it were possible to do this with the rotary to test
    some ideas

    Working Engine With Crystal Clear Head Shows Combustion Process In
    Real Time
http://altdriver.com/story/working-engine-with-crystal-clear-head-shows-combustion-process-in-real-time/
     Alex Molteno


    Can you share those ideas Alex? :-)

    Paul Lamar



    I was thinking along the ideas and modifications you Frank and others
    were talking about a few weeks ago, guiding flame fronts, additional
    spark pugs (side by side) more complete combustion of hydrocarbons
    instead of mixture igniting while going out the exhaust, changing
    compression ratios with inserts, additional shapes to induce more
    swirl for complete combustion.

    If you could film it in real time what a great way to test these
    ideas if it were possible to have a clear view on to the rotary
    combustion chamber.


    Alex Molteno

    Attempts have been made to do that in the recent  past (2015) on the
    rotary but due to the geometry and other temperature considerations
    it has not been very successful.

    What has worked recently has been CFD. CFD gives you velocity and
    pressure. CFD is improving all the time. If somebody built my idea
    of a multiple piece  rotor that bypassed squish air it would be very
    very difficult to see that optically. It was CFD results that gave
    me the idea.

    Paul Lamar


    For interest try checking the website for RX7 Specialties or REC in
    Calgary, Alberta. Last I looked he showed some interesting projects
    he has worked on. Built some rotaries to run small compressors for
    the gas industry that burned sour gas to 3% H2S.

    Dale Davies

    I always thought that was a good idea.

    Many oil wells burn the gas in the atmosphere when it could be
    generating electricity and feeding it back into the grid.

    The huge Ingersoll Rand rotary ran on oil well gas.

    The advent of the Silicon Nitride 20,000 hour apex seal would make
    that more economically viable as the engine could run 24 hours a day
    for years. Lets say it was 200 HP. That is  149 Kilo watts per oil
    well.

    At ten cents a kilowatt that is  15 dollars a day.  About $5000 a
    year.

    in LA  CA  it is about 12 cents a kilo watt.

    What does a kilo watt of electricity cost in your home town?.

    Paul Lamar


    I pay 29.5 NZ cents/Kw Andrew Campbell

    That is about 21 cents US. If there are any oil wells in NZ burning
    off natural gas a rotary powered generators running on natural gas
    would have a big pay off. The generator would pay for itself in six
    months.

    Does NZ have any big river  dams with hydro electric power
    generators?

    Paul Lamar

   This is very interesting stuff. When gas was $4-5/ gallon I was looking at
   experimenting with LP at $1.80. Has anyone seen a rotary run on LP?
   Todd Olson

   Yes. It will run on almost anything. There are several oil wells within a few
   miles of here that burn gas 24hours a day. One is ten feet high.

   Paul Lamar

   You could turbo or supercharge it no problem as LPG will run really well in a recip engine at 13:1 compression. Fuel economy at that comes out to close to the same as gasoline but way less expensive. When it was still a waste byproduct it was just $0.05 per liter or about 0.20 per gallon US. UPS had delivery vans on a GM chassis with turbocharged 4.3L V6 like used in the Typhoon. They ran CNG which can be used at 15:1 compression.

   Problem with LPG is the tank size and you can not park underground. A CNG or LNG conversion would be similar to the RX8 Hydrogen installation but access to fuel could be easier and the tank will not be empty after sitting two weeks.

   Dale Davies




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