Subject: TTC Engine: Rotor Blow-By
From: paul lamar
Date: 4/5/2017, 11:27 AM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink



       Crank case pressure is a result of end gap size in
     the side seal to
       corner seal fit, the corner seal to apex seal fit and
     the    corner
       seal to corner seal bore fit.

       I start side seal end clearance at zero. Replace at
     .0025" Use the
       old    solid corner seals, not the ones
     with the rubber plug. Use
       the largest breather hose diameter  possible.

       Lynn E. Hanover


       I agree with Lynn Hanover on controlling
     Blow-By....  but I cut the
       corner \seals for zero clearance a shown in the
     attachment to avoid
       locking interference with the side seals.

       Barry Bordes

       Not a problem for a dry sump system. A little blow by
     helps.

       I highly recommend it for any aircraft application as
     one can use a    better oil pump and up the oil pressure. Particularly
     with an    aluminum front housing where the stock oil pump is
     problematic.

       Paul Lamar


       Hey Barry B.

       Could you show us the jig set-up you use to cut the
     corner seals    like that? Thx!

       Dan Gorsline.

       My Photobucket file blocks any attempts to
     download... so here is a    diagram. Made with 1" angle iron. A corner
   of a   rotor,  and a Dremel    diamond disc.

   Barry Bordes


       Brilliant idea Barry. I consider this an important
     improvement in the  rotary sealing. Solves two problems. Hand fitting the
     side seals  during overhaul and improving the side seal sealing.
     This results in  a small improvement in BSFC and power. In some cases
     when the hand  fitting is poorly done a larger improvement :-)
     Felix  Wankel would  like it.

       You should sell these.

       You need a web site Barry.

       Paul Lamar


     Hey Barry B.

     Thx for the drawing. I'm not fully clear at whats
     happening..are  you using one of the other corner seal holes as a pivot
     point  for the jig? You need a website and YouTube vids. You
     clearly  know some good rotary tricks. Please try again to
     send pics  (or better yet, video!) of jig in action.

     Thx again!

     Dan Gorsline.


     Barry is using an old rotor to hold the corner seal
     while he slots it with a dremal tool. This allows a little
     lee way  in the length of the side seal and does a better job of
     sealing  the corner seal end.

     Here is a quick 3D for Barry.

     Paul Lamar

   Nice drawing Paul,
   But I cut the corner of the rotor off and attach it to two pieces of angle.
   The drawing should show the die grinder flipped and the diamond disk
   moving in a 7.344" arc.
   I first installed the mod in April of 08 and have over 30k miles on it.

   Since this sectioning destroyed the rotor I then made it into a special
   tool
   (per Lynn Hanover's idea) for scribing side seal paths on the side plates.
   This too is a critical area for long side seal life.

   Barry Bordes

   It is rather surprising that Frank found a Pratt & Whitney Canada
   patent that already does this.

   We will see a Pratt&Whitney Canada Wankel any day now. They can use the
   gear box off the PT6 only slightly modified.

   Paul Lamar

   Barry, Paul and all,

      A top view would sure help me to fully visualize Just how you
   constructed your jig just how much of the rotor tip to cut off..........

   Thanks,
   Kelly troyer


   The rotor corner is held on by three screws.
   Use an apex seal to key the corner seal while grinding.
   If you look closely at the paper in the box behind the tool there are "notes to self".
   The grinder is raised and lowered depending on which direction is being ground.

   Barry Bordes



   Much better picture Barry. Thanks.

   The notes where not clear. Do you have a scanner?

   Paul Lamar

Simple but effective. Do you cut a uniform slot top to bottom or leave a radius in there?
Seems like a good idea. Did I miss the part about you making your own extended side
seals? To take advantage of this I would think you need a side seal that is longer than
you can normally get from Mazda.
Bill Jepson

Silicon Nitride side seals, if and when they become available, will cut the wear
on the cast iron side plates.

Paul Lamar

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