Subject: Water pumps
From: paul lamar
Date: 4/18/2017, 5:44 AM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink



I think it is time to take a look at the automotive water pump.
There are 2 major types of pumps, centrifugal and positive displacement, we are interested in the centrifugal group.

Within that group there are 2 types of designs; open impellor and closed impellor. Open impellor are used in almost all automotive water pumps.


The open impellor type are used for their low cost of manufacture and their relative ease of cleaning, should they become blocked.


The closed style is however far more efficient but is substantially far higher in cost to produce, and far harder to clean if they become blocked. Blockage in our situation is not a factor. Open style impellor pumps are never used on flammable or explosive materials as the clearance between the impellor and the volute can be reduced to zero by thermal expansion. Automotive pumps run with very high clearances to avoid the same problem, this makes them low efficiency.


We must now consider the application they are being used on.
In Industry the pump is designed around a set of parameters that suit the customers requirements, and in general used at a constant speed.
In the case of the automobile and other internal combustion engines this speed can vary considerably.



The automotive pump must be able to deliver sufficient flow at low rpm and or low speed and high engine load to cool adequately.
If you double the speed of this pump you require the cube in energy, i.e. 2x2x2=8.


Consider an engine running at 2000 rpm at idle and then at 6000rpm or higher as we do at cruise, the auto environment never for domestic use run at so high rpm for any length of time.
You have increased the speed by a factor of 3, so now you require the cube of 3, 3x3x3=27.



I have no argument with Pauls formulae for Volts x Amps = watts, and the conversion between HP to Watts, what is in dispute is that you have increased the rpm by a factor of 3 but have not increased the flow by anywhere near that factor, but are consuming 27 times the power. You could only possibly hope to increase the flow rate by a factor of 3 by using variable geometry impellors and volute. This aint going to happen.


In any case to increase the flow by this amount and be able to exchange 3 times the heat is also not going to happen with a heat exchanger designed to suit the output of the pump So where does this leave us.
It leaves us with a pump that is highly inefficient and a vast waste of energy, but is acceptable to the auto manufactures, and where do you think all that energy goes? Some is lost in slippage within the pump due to high clearances, the higher pressure is able to pass easily to the low pressure side thus reducing pumping efficiency, but the rest goes into heating the cooling water!!!


Some European car manufactures have woken up to this and are using electric pumps, also many of the rotary racing boys here and probably elsewhere are using electric pumps.
They consume a fraction of the power of a mechanical pump, but are highly efficient.
I will be running an electric pump made by Davis Craig of Australia, check them out.
I also Know of a tri rotor here in Tauranga that is a race car that has run an electric pump for some years.

Andrew.  Campbell

 What kind of race car? What brand of electric pump? What size is the fuse?

Paul Lamar

The Rotary Engine free News Letter. Powered by Linux. If you want off
the list PLEASE let me know and I will remove  you.  ACRE NL web
site. http://www.rotaryeng.net You Tube http://tinyurl.com/beqqxas
Copyright 1998-2017 All world wide rights reserved.