Subject: Building Projects
From: paul lamar
Date: 5/8/2017, 1:13 AM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink



Hi Paul, we have had a couple of Visions built at Serpentine. One had a Subaru engine, reg VH WRX, and flew OK, though the airframe was a bit heavy. The other is still under construction and has 6 inches added to the cabin height as the builder is about 6’6” tall. Rs, Dave McCandless  in Perth

Dave: You don't have contact with the builders or possible contact details of the flyable version of the Vision.?The builders group is not a very active and only a small group sharing there experience.
Will contact you in private for the details. Forgive me Paul for reaching out on this group ,as to get hold of our family of builders. Much appreciated.

Le Roux Breytenbach

The Internet  and this  newsletter never seizes to amaze me. Le Roux and Dave are just across the Indian ocean from each other. And I am on the exact opposite side of the globe

You guys can use the newsletter. I am sure there may be one or two more Visions being built on here.

Paul Lamar

Hi Paul and Le Roux, Nice Depiction of the Oceans. Give me a day or two and maybe I can get some pics. The guy who built the flyer has passed away, but the airplane is still around. Rs,  Dave McCandless in Perth

I have Vision plans. But I've never had the time to actually build it.

David Mikesell
San Jose, California

Are the wings hot wired foam David?

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Back in 2011 Pierre Swanepoel from S. Afica (I think) was building a 13b powered vision.
Here are some 3D's and pictures

Paul: This is my firewall dimensions for the Vision Ex.After these drawings and the new universal engine mount the following.

Can you help with new drawings for my 13B with the (universal mount)
With dry sump engine 90 degree turn(plugs up mount)
Must I move the engine mount points from the current position inwards to have the side-rad to fit in under the cowl

Thanks Le Roux Breytenbach


The Vision is a plans build plane from the USA state IL Pro-Composites Scott VanderVeen is the owner of the company.

pro-composites.com <http://pro-composites.com

3D's by Paul Lamar.

Le Roux Breytenbach



Paul: This is my firewall dimensions for the Vision Ex.After these drawings and the new universal engine mount the following.

Can you help with new CAD drawings for my 13B.
With the (universal mount) With dry sump engine 90 degree turn(plugs up mount)
Must I move the engine mount points from the current position inwards to have the side-rad to fit in under the cowl ?

 Le Roux Breytenbach


Why are you doing plugs up?  The oil will drain out of the rotors and main bearings better if
it is in the normal position.  I would only do plugs up if the end plates and center housings
 were designed for it.

Looking at the firewall from the front it is best to move the left side  mounting hard points
top and bottom in about  2 or 3 inches.

That gives more room for the cooling radiator. It is easy to laminate a little more
wood an the back side of the firewall to stiffen  it up in bending. That will only be necessary
for the top mount. You can also bolt in a 1/2 inch diameter steel tube running to the joint
between side skin and instrument panel if you are worried about it.

Here are some 3D's from the Tango a very similar airplane.

Paul Lamar