Subject: Building Projects Vision
From: paul lamar
Date: 5/10/2017, 10:02 AM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink


  Hi Paul, we have had a couple of Visions built at Serpentine. One had
  a Subaru engine, reg VH WRX, and flew OK, though the airframe was a
  bit heavy. The other is still under construction and has 6 inches
  added to the cabin height as the builder is about 6’6” tall. Rs, Dave
  McCandless in Perth

  Dave: You don't have contact with the builders or possible contact
  details of the flyable version of the Vision.?The builders group is
  not a very active and only a small group sharing there experience.
  Will contact you in private for the details. Forgive me Paul for
  reaching out on this group ,as to get hold of our family of
  builders. Much appreciated.

  Le Roux Breytenbach

  The Internet  and this  newsletter never seizes to amaze me. Le Roux
  and Dave are just across the Indian ocean from each other. And I am
  on the exact opposite side of the globe

  You guys can use the newsletter. I am sure there may be one or two
  more Visions being built on here.

  Paul Lamar

  Hi Paul and Le Roux, Nice Depiction of the Oceans. Give me a day or
  two and maybe I can get some pics. The guy who built the flyer has
  passed away, but the airplane is still around. Rs,  Dave McCandless
  in Perth

  I have Vision plans. But I've never had the time to actually build
  it.

  David Mikesell San Jose, California

  Are the wings hot wired foam David?

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Back in 2011 Pierre Swanepoel from S. Afica (I think) was building a 13b
  powered vision. Here are some 3D's and pictures

  Paul: This is my firewall dimensions for the Vision Ex.After these
  drawings and the new universal engine mount the following.

  Can you help with new drawings for my 13B with the (universal mount)
  With dry sump engine 90 degree turn(plugs up mount) Must I move the
  engine mount points from the current position inwards to have the
  side-rad to fit in under the cowl

  Thanks Le Roux Breytenbach


  The Vision is a plans build plane from the USA state IL
  Pro-Composites Scott VanderVeen is the owner of the company.

  pro-composites.com <http://pro-composites.com
  <http://pro-composites.com

  3D's by Paul Lamar.

  Le Roux Breytenbach



  Paul: This is my firewall dimensions for the Vision Ex.After these
  drawings and the new universal engine mount the following.

  Can you help with new CAD drawings for my 13B. With the (universal
  mount) With dry sump engine 90 degree turn(plugs up mount) Must I
  move the engine mount points from the current position inwards to
  have the side-rad to fit in under the cowl ?

  Le Roux Breytenbach


  Why are you doing plugs up?  The oil will drain out of the rotors
  and main bearings better if it is in the normal position.  I would
  only do plugs up if the end plates and center housings were designed
  for it.

  Looking at the firewall from the front it is best to move the left
  side mounting hard points top and bottom in about  2 or 3 inches.

  That gives more room for the cooling radiator. It is easy to laminate
  a little more wood an the back side of the firewall to stiffen  it up
  in bending. That will only be necessary for the top mount. You can
  also bolt in a 1/2 inch diameter steel tube running to the joint
  between side skin and instrument panel if you are worried about it.

  Here are some 3D's from the Tango a very similar airplane.

  Paul Lamar

  ----------------------------------------------------------------- Is
  there a cowling available for the vision? Or do you have to do your
  own cowling? I need the dimension of that before I can do a universal
  mount tube lengths.

  Paul Lamar


There is no cowl for the Vision you have to build your own.
Le Roux


OK I will design one.

Paul Lamar

Here is one of the 3D's
I'll add the dims shortly.

Do they sell Dodge Rams pick up trucks in South Africa?
Dodge Ram's are now owned by Fiat. My Dodge RAM is called a Ducata
in the rest of the world.

I ask because the rads are ideal for cooling.
This rad core is 20 by 30 inches.

Paul Lamar

Here are the tube dims. The round tubes must be shortened by 2.5 inches
to accommodate the rod ends. The two lower square tubes by about 1.25 inches.

See http://www.rotaryeng.net/uni-mm.html

The lateral brace  X can be done after the side tubes are installed.

Paul Lamar


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