Subject: RD1C installation guide 12 h
From: paul lamar
Date: 12/15/2017, 2:46 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink



    12 h


    Does anyone have a rd1c installation guide or advice. I want to
    check before bolting the psru back up for engine runs. Wasn't there a
    viton seal recommended to seal the bearing/thrust washer stack
    against the motor mount plate?    Alex Molteno Yes but I recommend
    Teflon.   Paul Lamar


    I will see if I can dig up my RD 1C manual and email it to you
    directly.   Scott Gettings.

    Alex, The teflon disc goes between the input gear and the inner
    surface of the planetry reduction to stop metal to metal when you
    pull power and the input shaft can be drug forwards.  The prop shaft
    goes through the center of the teflon disc. Bearings go against the
    plate, and make sure you have a low pressure seal in the plate. A low
    pressure seal has one lip only, a high pressure, two or double lip.
    Little pressure in the housing so the low pressure seal does a much
    better job of sealing as is more flexible.

    Neil Unger.

    Ok thanks Neil,

    Alex Molteno


    Hi Neil, do you have an illustration or picture to show the location
     of the discs on your drive. My engine has run time on a stand for
    about an hour when it belonged to Milo Burroughs and there is a
    slight bit of wear on Tracys motor mount plate at the rear of the
    drive. I initially figured thats what you were talking about when you
    said it needs the teflon disc, to stop any metal on metal rubbing
    when the shaft is not being pulled forward, for instance when the
    prop is driving the engine on steep descent,

    but as i understand it, you recommend to put another disc at the
    opposite end too for when power is applied and the shaft is pulled
    forward to metal on metal contact

    So 2 discs needed then. Do you remember what thickness you are using
     for the forward disc, so it doesn't tear it up?

    Alex Molteno

    That is kind of surprising as those are thrust roller bearings. They
    should not need teflon.

    Paul Lamar Alex,
                                There is one nylon or teflon disc only,
   not two.  The Nylon disc which tracy called the "snubber" bearing goes
   between the front face of the gear on the input shaft and the inner face
   of the planetry.  The prop shaft comes through the front of the planetry
   (splined) and then through the "snubber" disc with the polished end of
   the prop shaft then finishing up inside the center of the input shaft
   which has a brass bush pressed into it. THis makes both the prop shaft
   and the input shaft almost rigid. The bearing stack which consists of, 2
   thick thrust washers which are each end of the bearing stack, a pin
   roller thrust bearing (2 of) fits inwards of each thick washer,(one each
   end) with a thin thrust washer going in the middle of the 2 pin roller
   bearings. (middle of stack)  The bearing stack has a thick thrust
   washer-- a pin roller bearing -- the thin center thrust washer --
   another pin roller bearing and then another thick thrust washer.


       The bearing stack slides onto the back of the input shaft. The
   bearing stack sits directly onto the Tracy plate and  the rear thick
   washer should not turn at all.  Each thick thrust washer at each end of
   the bearing stack should not turn.  The rear washer is stationery on the
   mounting plate and the front washer turns with the input shaft. The
   turning is done by the 2 pin rollers and thin intermediate thrust washer
   only.  You say there is wear on the mounting plate--- Make sure that the
   rear most thick washer is not binding on the input shaft.  It must be
   free to turn without binding on the input shaft under any circumstances.


       Clearance is checked by standing the PSRU on the prop shaft
   vertically, removed from the mounting plate.  It may be best to remove
   the thick rubber O ring that holds the ring gear of the planetry in
   place while you do this as the 2 halves of the PSRU must be in full
   contact with each other to not give a wrong clearance reading. 2 clamps
   will do the same thing just so long as there is nil gap between the 2
   halves.


   Remove the input shaft and bearing stack.  Drop the nylon
   snubber washer over the prop shaft that protrudes from the planetry
   assembly.  Then drop the input shaft down so that the protruding prop
   shaft is inserted inside the gear (brass bush inside)  and resting
   firmly on the nylon "snubber" washer.  (this is the one and only nylon
   washer). Place the bearing stack over the end of the input shaft and
   they should just clear a straight edge put across the PSRU housing that
   is to bolt onto the mounting plate.


    I work on a min of 5 thou, but is
   not that critical, just so long as there is clearance. If the bearing
   stack is proud of the housing, the nylon washer is to be thinned down,
   or replaced with a thinner one until the bearing stack is clear of the
   afore mentioned straight edge.  (I use a steel ruler as it is not all
   that critical, just has to clear)


     Under load the input shaft rests on the bearing stack due to the
   helical cut of the gears, (rearward force).  Pull the power so that the
   prop now drives the PSRU and the gears (helical) will pull the input
   shaft forwards.  The nylon snubber washer takes up any forward thrust
   pressure preventing metal to metal contact.
   Probably clear as mud??  Ask me for clarification where necessary.
   Neil Unger





Thanks Neil, that's clear, i understand now regarding the bearing stack clearance and function and to size the snubber so that there's enough clearance to avoid binding a thrust washer on to the input shaft.

Just have the drive apart now to press in new threaded lugs and will check to make sure I have the necessary clearance when it goes back together,

Alex Molteno


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