Subject: Build your own one rotor gear box 12 b
From: paul lamar
Date: 5/4/2018, 6:13 PM
To: A10-Me-Earthlink

12 b
 Do you have any data on the grade of steel for the prop Shaft?
 Andrew Campbell. NZ

 No not for sure. It was built seventy years ago. Probably 4130. It
 is way over kill for the TTC as it was the main shaft for a
 helicopter. 4130 has been around since the 1930's.

 For the 2 rotor.... 2 inch  dia, 3/16 wall 4130 tube is about right.

 Paul Lamar

 Thanks Paul. That was my first choice, some seem to think that EN 8
 or similar medium carbon steels  might be a good option.

 Andrew Campbell.

 Are you building your own gear box Andrew?

 Here is an idea for a one rotor gear box.

 Toyota's are sold in the millions around the world so you can
 probably can get automatic transmission replacement parts in New
 Zealand. Or you can just buy a Corrolla auto tx gear box in a junk
 yard.

 This page is from an automatic transmission replacement part
 distributor and is for a 84 to 87 Corrolla. The planet carrier looks
 much like the Ford planet carrier used in the two rotor gear boxes
 but is probably smaller and lighter.

 The sun gear is ideal as it has a long input shaft. If you don't have
  Corrolla's let me know what you do have.

 A gear box built with these parts should be good for 150 HP as long
 as you have a good silicon  rubber coupling. Very very important
 with a one rotor.

 The next trick is to abandon the traditional way of making aircraft
 gear boxes. That is  a long prop shaft in front of the planet carrier
  with two widely spaced bearings.  This is normally necessary to
 take the bending loads on the prop shaft due to gyroscopic
 reactions. It is even used on non geared piston aircraft engines.

 If we put a flange on both side of the planet carrier and a bearing
 on each flange we can do away with long prop shaft and save some
 weight. The flanges will do double duty as a planet carrier. The
 combined planet carrier will be ridged enough to do this and act as a
 long prop shaft.

 Don't bother with a traditional prop flanges as ground adjustable
 prop blades are widely available.

 Here are a bunch of pictures and a 3D

 Paul Lamar
     Yes I will be building the PSRU, I had pretty much decided to go
with the Gates synchronous drive, you have seen Chris Wade's Kahau, it
has a belt drive. my Challenger 11 has a belt drive and   I have all the
relevant details     from Gates in the US.
      I would go with a planetary drive if I could get hold of suitable
parts, we do have Corolla's in NZ so I will see if I can get hold of a
gear box.
      I plan on using a Warp Drive ground adjustable prop, I have one on
my Challenger 11.
     Andrew Campbell.


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